tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7004461851315310562.post8660947872547146080..comments2023-08-28T15:15:35.995-04:00Comments on Murphblog: My Sometimes Episodic YA NovelPaul Michael Murphyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17318098111985714443noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7004461851315310562.post-62265027422330930982009-08-28T20:25:27.469-04:002009-08-28T20:25:27.469-04:00I do, Tina. So, Thanks. It'll be a few weeks p...I do, Tina. So, Thanks. It'll be a few weeks probably.Paul Michael Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17318098111985714443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7004461851315310562.post-59478183713576266962009-08-28T17:33:14.851-04:002009-08-28T17:33:14.851-04:00I'd be thrilled to read it, if you still need ...I'd be thrilled to read it, if you still need someone.Tina Laurel Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04482757085942311091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7004461851315310562.post-3395863528551120822009-08-27T16:26:19.138-04:002009-08-27T16:26:19.138-04:00Thanks, Chris.Thanks, Chris.Paul Michael Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17318098111985714443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7004461851315310562.post-9442533111195355742009-08-26T21:55:18.014-04:002009-08-26T21:55:18.014-04:00I'd be willing to be one of your "readers...I'd be willing to be one of your "readers" for the YA if you like. Just shoot me an email when it's time.chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11263596558436041767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7004461851315310562.post-87695103538581465282009-08-25T23:49:40.669-04:002009-08-25T23:49:40.669-04:00I pretty much agree with everyone here I guess. A...I pretty much agree with everyone here I guess. Aside from mystery's and thrillers, where a lot of times I find episodic content annoying, I adore it in most other fiction. <br /><br />As long as your story doesn't seem slowed down and the reader doesn't get bored, I'd say you are safe! :-)<br /><br />Good luck on it!Betty (Beth)https://www.blogger.com/profile/01103494513591543887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7004461851315310562.post-64900568601352457332009-08-25T23:01:12.336-04:002009-08-25T23:01:12.336-04:00After being at SCBWI this year, if you write YA, y...After being at SCBWI this year, if you write YA, you're better off including werewolves, vampires, or goblins of some kind, since they were around every corner and book table. <br /><br />Then again, you can't chase the market and I don't know why you'd want to. You have to write the story only you can write.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05514067724256745623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7004461851315310562.post-78965818604710133682009-08-25T22:11:57.449-04:002009-08-25T22:11:57.449-04:00Hmm. Well, I was reading a very episodic book when...Hmm. Well, I was reading a very episodic book when it won the Newberry this year. <br /><br />I think episodic is very fitting for comedy, especially literary comdey. It seems harder to set up a long payoff joke in the chapter format. <br /><br />I too have decided to jump up to YA while my MG percolates in an agent's kindle. But I want to go darker and (just a tiny bit) more ooey-gooey romantic.Lily Catehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17732112345439595471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7004461851315310562.post-79724177559167736502009-08-25T20:10:04.526-04:002009-08-25T20:10:04.526-04:00Thanks, gang. My inclination is to leave the scene...Thanks, gang. My inclination is to leave the scenes, but see if I can't find a way to make them more relevant to the story. Right now, I'd say they do a nice job of establishing character and that's not all bad.Paul Michael Murphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17318098111985714443noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7004461851315310562.post-62131898911205958952009-08-25T18:36:45.529-04:002009-08-25T18:36:45.529-04:00I notice you've read The Spectacular Now, my f...I notice you've read The Spectacular Now, my favorite book of 2009 so far. The writing is incredibly tight (every word counts) and it's very funny. If I were writing a humorous YA, that's the book I'd emulate. Not that YOU need to emulate it. I'm just sayin'.MG Higginshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03584010470283038023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7004461851315310562.post-39328177233332373272009-08-25T18:31:53.687-04:002009-08-25T18:31:53.687-04:00I'm re-reading The Time Traveller's wife r...I'm re-reading The Time Traveller's wife right now. It's episodic, in that there's a lot of detail about the protagonists, and i have wondered how much of is really 'necessary'. That being said, i'm really enjoying hearing about all the punk bands that Henry (the time traveler) and his wife's art. I think that the purpose of those unnecessary scenes is to flesh out your characters, to maybe provide some foreshadowing, if that works out somehow. (just not tooooo obvious. I hate foreshadowing that whacks you upside the head)<br /><br />I like TEW's comment, 'ground the reader in the story's world'.<br /><br />and i totally agree with Adam, about entertainment being important. I love just laughing out loud to books. Like in Ben Esch's book, that had a lot of funny crap that was totally unnecessary.Monicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03620081445110803359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7004461851315310562.post-54644052474737518322009-08-25T16:38:52.002-04:002009-08-25T16:38:52.002-04:00I think if you're writing mysteries or thrille...I think if you're writing mysteries or thrillers, everything has to keep the book moving forward, everything has to have a purpose. But if this is a John Green ABUNDANCE OF KATHERINES kind of story, then you have room to fool around and let the reader know more about your characters and what they're experiencing. I also like when things seem single layered and then another layer of funny is added to them. Did you see Nick and Nora's Infinite Playlist? The gay guy gives Nora a bra in the back of the van and you think it's kind of funny, but not that funny, until the sex scene at the end, when Nick says, "Hey, so-and-so has this same bra." Perfection.Anitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333494452915600562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7004461851315310562.post-64001144580452672692009-08-25T16:23:21.161-04:002009-08-25T16:23:21.161-04:00There's definitely room in the beginning for b...There's definitely room in the beginning for baseline scenes, scenes that ground the reader in the story's world. <br /><br />Since you have read Markus Zusak's I Am the Messenger, I'll use it as an example: It has a few baseline scenes, setting up the protagonist before the first card arrives in the mail and the story really get rolling. However, this beginning part also includes the bank robbery, which turns out to be vital to the story. This is just one example that comes to mind, sure there are many more. <br /><br />My suggestion is to make your opening scenes more relevant to the story. Maybe you plant something early within the comedic scenes and that something turns out to be important later. If it's a humorous story, and you think these opening scenes are funny, then leave them. As long as it's not 30 pages worth of nothing moving forward. Okay, maybe 15-20 pages.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05514067724256745623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7004461851315310562.post-80009417092725267302009-08-25T16:20:06.847-04:002009-08-25T16:20:06.847-04:00I'm completely cool with episodic novels. Str...I'm completely cool with episodic novels. Structure's not as important as entertainment to me. And on the question of the offending scenes, I'd say they're most likely fine. Humor novels usually have many extraneous scenes, but I always think it's really cool when an author brings a small, nearly insignificant point that occurs early on in the story toward the end and expands it. It adds just a touch of absurdism (usually) that is quite satisfying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7004461851315310562.post-33649873079373791402009-08-25T16:14:49.005-04:002009-08-25T16:14:49.005-04:00Ever heard of Jean Shepherd? He made episodic work...Ever heard of Jean Shepherd? He made episodic work. I'm just saying. <br /><br />And all first drafts are crap. <br /><br />Get it out. <br /><br />Fix it later.Myra McEntirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02489075264670333000noreply@blogger.com